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do it. people put out signs that they're homeless. i'm not. so i'm just being honest. >> that she is. don't worry, if your favorite story was not picked, we'll post all the stories on the web site. the fox news alert on the growing chaos unfolding in egypt. just this morning, security forces storming a mosque in cairo after a 24-hour standoff with hundreds of islamist support hes who had barricaded themselves inside. hello, everyone. i'm kelly wright, welcome to a brand-new hour inside america's news headquarters. >> pleased to have you with us. the situation is quickly unraveling. take a look at there video out of northeast egypt. hundreds of people are on this bridge, and they are literally ducking and running for their lives, as the shots ring out. the death toll has been climbing, at least 173 people
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killed. that is just since yesterday. now, we're also getting word that the egyptian government is looking to permanently dismantle the muslim brotherhood. that is a huge development, and it's threatening to raise the tensions there even further. we're on the story from the start, following it from our mideast bureau. leland, how much further has this moved along, and not in the right direction. >> reporter: jaime, it's clearly gone from a protest movement, if it ever was one, to a fullout arm aed insurrection. we have video from that mosque we want to show you. and what it very clearly show sz supporters of the muslim brotherhood up in the minaret filing at the crowds and at the police. a very different picture than the muslim brotherhood has been painting of a peaceful protest. the police fired back. they went in and cleared out the mosque. the other people the muslim brotherhood are fighting are local vigilantes upset over the violence and what the muslim
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brotherhood could stop. the brotherhood for its part has continued to be extremely defiant the mosque is right next to a police station that the brotherhood had tried to storm yesterday and a number of people were injured in that. and then they took refuge there in the mosque. the army is vowing to crack down. they have threatened to outlaw the muslim brotherhood. there are tanks and armored personnel carriers on the streets and obviously cairo has turned into something of an urban battlefield with both sides fearing now live ammunition. part of the army's strategy is round up the senior leadership of muslim brotherhood and affiliated organizations. one person they've arrested mohammed al saturday wir zawiri. he was let out when the muslim brotherhood took power a few months before that. and he is now back in custody for inciting things there in egypt. they're trying to see if they
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can't round up the leadership of the muslim brotherhood and therefore turn off the flame on this pot that appears to be boiling over. the problem with this theory, jaime, is oftentimes you can equate the muslim brotherhood in egypt as a hide dra, a multi-headed snake in greek mythology. you cut off one head, two more grow in its place. that appears to be what's happening. no matter how many members of the brotherhood are killed or how many of them are killing other people. >> keep us up-to-date. kelly? one of the big questions right now, what happens if egypt descends into a fullout civil war? what would that mean for the u.s. and for stability in the region? we will speak with former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. john bolton all about that when he joins us live coming up later this hour. back here at home, another fox news alert, a string of
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devastating wildfires it tearing through the west. there are at least 30 of them burning across 11 states including idaho where at least 1600 people near the resort community of sun valley have been forced from their homes. in utah, firefighters saying they have managed to get an upper hand on a wildfire burning near salt lake city, and an evacuation order for some 110 families in that area is still in effect. we are following it all live. the whole roundup from our los angeles bureau. >> that fire in utah is at park city. you may remember it hosted many of the events in the 2002 winter olympics. the fire has destroyed about 14 homes so far, catching a lot of residents unaware and giving had some just minutes to flee the flames. with this fire among many others raging on and with firefighters working in heat pushing 100 degrees, the u.s. forest service
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is saying they're stretched. >> there's a lot of other fires that have the same problems we're having, evacuations, very cumbersome, complex situations. so we're strapped. we're trying to get as many resources as we can to help, but there's a lot of other places with the same problem we have. >> let's go back to beaver creek fire in sun valley. that stretched to 100 square miles now. a lot of affluent homes in that area that belong to celebrities, famous names like tom hanks, arnold schwarzenegger, bruce willis. no indication that their homes will get torched, but they're saying some private insurance companies are sending th ining crews in to provide protection. another thousand firefighters are expected overnight. this wildfire is big. beaver creek fire about 100 square miles at the moment.
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typical of the season we're seeing, strong winds up to 30 miles per hour and a lot of tinder, a lot of try tinder, in these areas, turning sun valley particularly into a bit of a powder keg. of course that's so bad in some areas that the local ski area has turned on water cannons to protect their area. >> all hands on deck to say the least. we'll check back. thanks. big question in washington right now -- fund health care or capitol hill? that is the question lawmakers are asking themselves this week. after still failing to reach a deal on how to keep the government running with only 45 days left to go until the october 1st deadline. it appears that both sides of the aisle agree the president's health care overhaul is the only thing standing in the way. elizabeth is live in washington with more details on this. >> reporter: well, lawmakers
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haven't given any indication they're planning an amicable resolution to the debt crisis upon their return next month, but as you mentioned the failure to compromise could lead to a partial government shutdown and therein lies the blame game, both parties pointing fingers during their address. democrats say the implementation is well on its way, americans are getting protections under this law that they didn't receive before, such as discounted prescriptions, contraceptive care, as well as the ability to compare plans online and even tax credits. they say republican efforts to delay the process is only hurting americans. >> they're actually having a debate between hurting americans who will no longer be denied affordable health care just because they've been sick and harming the economy and millions of americans in the process. >> states are about to feel the sticker shock. companies could be forced to lay workers off. americans could experience a raise in costs, jobs loss and reduce access to plans or doctors. they say that's why the house
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plans a legislation that delays the individual mandate which would further bring relief to the average household. >> this time at the behest of the insurance companies that say they need more time to comply. meanwhile, yes, you and your family are expected to adhere to all the prescribed mandates as scheduled. where is the fairness in that? >> so who are americans blame something well, the president's approval rating has waned. congress is faring even worse, right around 81%. kelly, back to you. >> thank you. so should president obama take congress' advice and put a hold on his coveted health care plan, avoiding the government shutdown threat? here with a balanced debate, our political debate. welcome to both of you. >> thank you. >> pleasure to be here. >> great to have you on. let me start with you, angela,
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because i want to ask the republicans are still pushing for possible defunding, and if so, would a delay be enough to satisfy them on enough points to get it to proceed? >> well, now, some republicans are pushing for defunding, but you have other republicans that are more moderate that are saying, let's not do a government shutdown because in 2014 it will actually hurt us politically. what some republicans want to do, jaime, is go to the table and develop solutions or delay obamacare. if you're going to delay the mandate for employers, why not delay the mandate for individuals to work a deal out? but i think if we utilize obamacare to close down the government, it's going to back fire on republicans. >> it's so complicated still. from the democratic point of view, i'm curious, do you have an alternative that might be able to get bipartisan support and get this thing on the road,
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or, if not -- you know, i never present an issue without solutions brought to the table. what do democrats think should be done at this point rather than just standing firm on something that's stalling what president obama wants? >> well, that's the republicans stalling and they're going after another way by shutting down the government after 40 votes to repeal obamacare despite passing the house and the senate and being signed by the president and with the -- of the supreme court. this is just another effort by them to -- >> but david, maybe not. maybe if there was a different proep or if the president presented initiatives other than what republicans are having issues with and americans are, too, the favorability rating of obamacare if a fox news poll it was called overwhelmingly a joke. >> well, the question was to me, if i might finish. >> go ahead. >> it might be a joke to some
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commentary, but it's not a joke to the young adults that can still stay on their parents' health care plan rather than not being able to afford it. >> i think everyone is for that, david, the 27-year-old. that's one of the positive things. this is not republicans. this is voters. so please respond to the poll. >> and with regard to voigtervo you'll find those voters who had preexisting conditions who couldn't get health care can now get health care. so there is a lot that is to be enacted that has already taken place. and with 2014 coming around with the exchanges coming up and individual mandate, you'll see more and more people being provided health care, 30 million people is the target. and why should we get in the way of that by shutting down our government? >> i'm not -- >> and doing so when the republicans have no alternative. republicans have no alternative. >> angela, david brought up the point of the exchanges.
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as i've delved into this and studied, just this week alone on the exchanges, very controversial the way it's all being funded. some of it going to planned parenthood which the president said repeatedly wouldn't happen, no funding of abortions. what's oversighting this? the oversight committee has asked for documents they say they never got. is that of concern to you? >> that is of concern to me, but also with this health care plan you've had religious organizations that are suing the administration. but then you've had unions that have asked for waivers not to implement it. now unions are coming out eside. david, it's not the fact that republicans don't want people to have health care. we do need health care reform. but you can't -- >> angela, you can't name a health care alternative. >> i'm about to if you would give me an alternative. john mccain had a plan where you would get tax refund -- tax credits for employers who gave their own plan to employees,
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where the american people -- >> that is just with obamacare. >> david, two quick questions. >> excuse me. i'm about to finish answering who had plans and who has solutions. david, go right ahead since you want this to be -- >> david, congressional members wanted to opt out. they get their waiver. the second thing is transparency, transparency, transparency. >> accountability. >> if these documents by the oversight committee are not turned over, is there something that democrats don't want the american people to know? >> not to my knowledge. and i think obamacare, if you go up on the web site and other sources, provides ample information. we're going to see more of that as we go into october in the rollout for the individual mandate in getting people into health care insurance. but i might make a point with regard to what angela said. up here in boston where the
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republican national committee was meeting and you had newt gingrich stand up before 200 state party chairs and others -- >> yes, he did. >> -- and he said, if you go home today and ask your members, especially the gop member, what's your positive replacement for obamacare, the answer will be none. that's what newt gingrich said of his own party. >> i respect newt gingrich, but newt gingrich is no longer speaker of the house. so you have paul ryan who's put forth a plan. you have senator tom coburn who's put forth a plan. you have republican from georgia tom price who's put forth a plan. >> and none of them have passeded senapassed ed the senate or the house. >> because you have a democratic senate and a republican house, they cannot come together. so what i call for is all parties to come together. >> we did on obamacare. >> it was forced through with nancy pelosi being speaker who
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is no longer speaker. >> got to leave it there. what's passed is being picked over and looked at and examined and the folks who were polled are concerned. and you do point out, david, some good points about some of the things that it will provide, but we've got to get it organized and bipartisan hopefully. >> and pay for it. >> and we have to get it out there for people to know. >> thank you both for being here and getting the word out. >> pleasure. >> have a great day. >> tensions rising in washington. we'll see what happens. >> i didn't have my whistle ff. >> meantime, there are new reports that the national security agency has repeatedly broken privacy rules, that according to latest revelations from edward snowden. the nsa say they were minuscule. some lawmakers say it's a very big deal. jennifer griffin is live in washington with more details on this. >> kell withe may 2012 internal audit showed thousands of privacy violations in one year
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alone, in some cases the nsa was monitoring the phone records of residents of washington, d.c., whose area code 202 is similar to that of egypt. nsa compliance director john delong says the violations were not willful or malicious and represented a, quote, minuscule percentage of nsa surveillance activity. during a rare conference call, he made these points. it was a rare conference call by the super secret spy agency on friday. nsa whistle-blower edward snowden provided newspapers the documents months ago. former house speaker nancy pelosi called the revelations extremely disturbing. democratic senator pat leahy says he plans to hold more judiciary hearings to investigate. >> the nsa has become a menace, and the constitutional rights of americans are under a broad assault here, the fourth amendment right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure, the first amendment right for freedom of speech. these are under attack.
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>> 2,776 instances of privacy violations occurred in one year from 2011 to 2012 under this added ministration. the audit also found nsa personnel were told to water down reports to the justice department and congress. the chairman of the house and senate intel committees continued to defend the surveillance program, quote, the majority of these compliance incidents are, therefore, unintentional and do not involve any inappropriate surveillance of americans. republican lawmakers who proposed legislation to defund the nsa surveillance program last month believe their legislation would have passed if these new revelations had come to light then. >> thanks, jennifer. good to see you. well, there is a search and rescue operation that's now under way following a tragic ferryboat crash. we're going to tell you where it happened and how it is going. a planned building demolition getting under way in san francisco.
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time now for a quick check of your headlines. a building implosion in california will giving scientists the opportunity to study the impact of earthquakes. they will monitor the demolition near one of the most dangerous fault lines in the country. they hope to learn where the ground might shake the most. critics slamming new york city's mayor for suggesting public housing residents should be fingerprinted to get into their own buildings. opponents say the idea echos the mayor's stop and frisk policy which was just ruled unconstitutional. and a search under way for 200 passengers missing after a ferryboat crashed in the philippines. the ferry carrying over 800 passengers hit a cargo ship. at least three dozen people are
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confirmed dead. well, there's a growing number of americans right now who are living with their parents. there's a new survey that came out and it found that nearly 2.5 million stay with family members for economic reasons, and most of them are young adults. these are tough times. brian is live in our new york city newsroom with the details. i guess we as kids are too old to do that necessarily, but you can understand with student loans and everything. >> yeah, you could. the recession is said to be over, right? but living rooms across the country are telling a different story. the number of young adults and even seniors living in their parents' home or doubling up with roommates is up 4% this year. according to a new analysis by real estate web site trulia, of the 2.4 million people who would have been homeowners pre-recession 57% were 18 to 34-year-olds. the rest are split between those ages 35 to 54 and those 55 and above. economists say the so-called
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missing households are driving the overall demand for housing down and the situation is leaving many young people stuck at home. >> even if you do get back to work, you don't run out and buy a home the day after you get a job. it takes years to save up for a down payment, establish a credit history and to have the confidence in your job that it's going to be there six months or a year from now that will help you pay the rent or mortgage. >> 26-year-old tara bono is a marketing manager who still lives in her parents' home along with her brothers in long island, new york. she said she isn't ashamed at all. >> i'm not at all. not embarrassed to still be living with my family. it's pretty much the status quo. people are doing it around here. and the people who i know who have moved out are struggling. they're not happy with their housing situation. and frankly a lot of people wish they still had that opportunity to stay at home a little bit longer. >> a new status quo. another survey released this week says most parents are okay with their children living at
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home for up to five years after finishing college. >> guess the big debate is, do you charge them rent? you'll report on that next. thank you, brian. >> no problem. they called him a dreamer. dr. martin luther king jr. next weekend many people will begin commemorating the 50th anniversary of the march on washington, and dr. king's famous speech "i have a dream." today in "beyond a dream" we look at the impact king's dream and life still has on the world. on the campus of morehouse college in atlanta, students are reminded of dr. martin luther king jr.'s legacy. he completed his under graduate degree at morehouse. students there are mindful of king's belief that education is a vital tool to escape poverty. former president of morehouse, dr. robert franklin, talked to me about the impact of king's dream on the school's campus and the nation. >> we hope that every man of morehouse who graduates and
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becomes a morehouse man will take with him those virtues that we seek to instill, commitment to academic excellence, to community service, to ethical leadership. we often talk about the 5 wells that these men are well read, well spoken, well traveled, well dressed, and well balanced. >> you're actually meeting with people where their hearts and minds are, and you're touching them, touching their needs, so you can change the world. >> that's right. i think that's the vision and inspiration martin luther king brought to montgomery, alabama, and it's something that our world desperately needs today. we like to say morehouse men are renaissance men with social conscience and global perspective. and our community around the nation need renaissance. that word means rebirth, renewal. >> you're talking about how american men can pursue the american dream, accomplish the american dream, and then live beyond that dream by serving their community.
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>> absolutely. service is the price we pay for the space we occupy on this earth. i think that's the foundation for rebuilding and renewing. families, houses of worship, schools, and other organizations that will change the future prospects of our nation community by community. >> today i'm going to talk to you for a few minutes about turning setbacks into comebacks with an attitude of excellence. >> top motivational speaker and radio talk show host willie jolly says he has followed the example of dr. king. jolly says he's amazed to see the positive changes king helped to make based on a dream. >> what would happen if we hadn't had benjamin may pointing to martin lunger king jr. as a student. what would have happened if martin luther can't wouldn't have said, i have a dream, not i have a wish. i didn't have a positive nice feeling.
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i have a dream. you've got to have a dream. it's not a nicety. it's a necessity. >> and beyond the dream, bishop t.d. jaikz points out that dr. king was concerned about the soul of america. he believes it's important to follow dr. king's example of love and forgiveness in order to heal the wounds of racism, the scars of the past, and even a divided nation. >> look at dr. king or countless other s who have done extraordinary feats because they used their energy for its highest and best use. for the individual watching, doing thing that's are good for you, good for your children, good for your relationship. sometimes you have to recognize that forgiveness is the best path to take for long-term success. >> and jakes says forgiveness is a high ideal. martin luther king focused on that ideal realizing it would pave the way to reconciliation.
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king said the time is always right to do what is right. that's a look at today's "beyond the dream". >> these messages are universal. thank you so much. beautifully told. well, our nation's debt is growing by the second. that part you may know. but you might not realize that it's closing in on $17 trillion. it's moving along. could our debt be even worse than we thought? >> plus this. >> egyptian security forces opening up on muslim brotherhood supporters holed up in a mosque, firing tear gas and turret guns. we'll have the latest on the uprising in egypt next. [ female announcer ] made just a little sweeter...
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fox news alert right now. the last few days have been the
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bloodiest in egypt's modern history. today security forces exchanged heavy gun fire with armed men barricaded in a cairo mosque. meanwhile, muslim brotherhood supporters are vowing to return to the streets now with no immediate end in sight. is there any positive way forward for egypt and the region? ambassador john bolton is a fox news contributor and former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. he joins in with his perspective on this. ambassador, we all feared that this might happen, and now that it has, how do you get out of it? how do you put the genie back in the bottle? >> well, unfortunately, i'm not sure there's an easy way to do that. you've got fundamentally irreconcilabe ablable objective the muslim brotherhood wants a sharia law society. they don't really care about democratic institutions. they're happy to get elected using those procedures, but then to try and kind of a creep-in
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coup to never lose power. on the other side you have the egyptian military and large numbers of the egyptian people, the coptic christian community 10% of the population, many middle class egyptians who just want life to get back to normal so the economy can pick up, and the number of pro-democracy leaders that hoped for a lot better than this. so the society is divided and it's obviously close to if not at a civil war at this point. and frankly i think the most likely way ahead is that the violence continues. >> ambassador, if that continues and your predictions prove to be right and we see a civil war take place in egypt, what will it mean for the region? >> well, potentially catastrophe. egypt is centrally located, far and away the largest arab country, 75 million to 80 million people. and could well be a site where al qaeda and other terrorist groups come in as they have in
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syria. now, a lot depends on how effective the military is here. certainly it does not look like the muslim brotherhood at this point has been terribly effective. they've provoked these confrontations because in their view of life it gives them more martyrs, gives them legitimacy for their cause. but the military has twice before in the last 60 years repressed the brotherhood so they've had experience doing it, and that seems to be what they're about right now. >> i'm glad you brought that up because provocation seems to be the rule of the day right now in terms of the muslim brotherhood and its protests. a lot of people have been talking about what took place in that mosque about security forces going in, storming in and actually firing tear gas and gunshots being heard once they went in there. but the backdrop of that story, ambassador, is the possibility that the shots were already coming from that mosque, that they're already armed in their own mosque and actually using their mosque as cover. >> oh, absolutely. i mean, the idea that this is
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the security forces armed and the muslim brotherhood are the unarmed victims of this is just a completely false narrative. we've also had credible reports by foreign news media in egypt dozens of coptic christian churches being attacked and in some cases destroyed. we've seen attacks on religious figures, christian religious figures. we know that tens of thousands of coptic christians have fled the country. so the violence here i think is clearly coming from both sides. the momentum right now is with the military and the security forces, and, as i say, we can't really know what the outcome will be or when it will be. that's what's under way right now. >> that's right. let me ask you, ambassador, about those coptic christians and the fact that many of them are now fleeing. why has the muslim brotherhood trained its sights on the christians in that area? >> well, the muslim brotherhood
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wants a strict radical islam sift constitution put in place, and the coptic christians are a minority that, although they flourished in egypt for 2,000 years, would essentially be in grave danger for their lives, really, not just their religious freedom if the brotherhood really cements control. so i think provoking this kind of confrontation helps the brotherhood with its credentials in the radical islamic world and also may provoke the outcome they want, which is for the christians to disappear. >> what then can the united states, the uk and the western allies and even allies operating in that region do to try to quell this violence and get this unrest settled? and does israel play a role as well? >> well, i don't think israel plays any role at all. they have clear interest here, but frainks nkly, they are best served by remaining on the sidelines. from the u.s. point of view, unfortunately, our options are really reduced at this point.
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we've seen in the last couple of years since the beginning of the arab spring, influence reduced in ways we could only fear in years gone by. i think we've got to make a decision who's going to protect, who in egypt is going to protect american interest, keeping the suez canal p open, keeping the camp david peace accords with israel in place. and i think the frank answer to that question is that's the military, certainly not the muslim brotherhood. >> it feels like we are in a wait and see mode and there's very little we can do about the violence that's erupting there. >> in the near term, i think that's right, unfortunately. >> ambassador, thank you for your insights, sir. >> we'll see the ambassador tomorrow as well. there are new details on the moments before a u.p.s. cargo jet crashed, killing its pilots. did the pilots know that they may have been flying too low? what the black box is now revealing. and our nation's debt might be more than we think. what it means for your bottom line, next.
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the pilots were warned moments before impact. the ntsb analyzing the black box on board the u.p.s. cargo plane that crashed in alabama this wednesday. the box recording two descent warnings 16 seconds before impact. the cargo jet falling short of a runway in birmingham, the two pilots on board killed. now investigators are looking into whether pilot error was to blame, including whether the jet was too low and hit trees before plowing into a hill near the runway. some new claims now that the u.s. government severely underestimated our debt. look at the clock. it's moving, moving, moving in one direction. up. a prominent economic is claiming that our country is not $16.9
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trillion in the hole. according to his calculations, it's more like 70 trillion. that's a lot. jonathan hone ig is a portfolio manager for the capitalist pig hedge fund. is that the highest it's ever been, jonathan? >> indeed. and i think that under states it. these government numbers have been doubted for years on everything from inflation to unemployment and most certainly the debt which of course the government has an interest in minimizing so it can continue to spend more and more. people might be surprised to learn that the u.s. treasury's balance sheet doesn't include the hundreds of billions of dollars in loan arrangements, in deposit insurance, in retirement expenses for federal employees, and of course social security and medicare. i mean, medicare alone has an unfronted liability of about $43 trillion. put it all together, and some estimates have it as high as $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities. that shows up nowhere on the treasury's balance sheet. >> you're making a lot of people
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afraid to leave the house in the morning, if that's the case. so my request is, what happened since the recession? >> well, we've added a lot to it. and i don't think people necessarily will be afraid to leave the house, but they might be afraid to buy u.s. debt. they might be afraid to buy u.s. bonds. interestingly, investors in u.s. bonds this year have actually lost money. some of that is because of fear of the fed tapering, some because of judging the credit worthiness of the u.s. you look at the economic collapses in greece, spain, the first canary in the coal mine, if you will, is an increase in interest rate. >> that's why i say that about the fear of leaving the world. you have to feel like your retirement are at risk, the bonds you thought were safe aren't earning what you thought, and ultimately you could be
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taxed more in order to pay for all of this. do you see more government spending coming, or do you see washington and the white house getting the message that we just don't have this money? >> well, interestingly, i mean, i guess from an economics perspective, i see a lot of politicians advocating social security and medicare as being triumphed something to emulate. those of course are exactly the main culprits to the $85 trillion to $100 trillion in unfunded liebltds. yes, i think a lot of investors who are looking long term might look at obamacare and say, ywe'e going to have another liability, major entitlement and long-term major expense for this country. >> can we afford obamacare? . >> not by any reasonable calculation that i've seen. i mean, i think that even by the best estimates this is going to be, as one prominent democrat put it, a train wreck. from a practitioner's
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perspective, a real bad investment for this country. >> look, it wasn't a huge portion of the 70 trillion we're talking about, but did the stimulus work? the hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars spent from everything from green energy jobs we're still waiting for those to of course habitats for homeowners and help out for homeowners, none of it has really produced any demonstratable results when it comes to the recovery. in fact, the economic recovery from this recession has come at about half the rate of previous recession recoveries. so all the spending hasn't yielded the results but yet we're going down the same road once again. >> okay, i hope down the road you'll be able to come and paint a better picture. but it's good to hear a realistic view of where we are. big number. >> thank you. >> thanks,s jonathan. great to have you on. tight economy out there, might be too tough to buy a cup of coffee. speaking of coffee, a new warning. we will take a look at a link between heavy coffee consumption and your health.
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lover, coffee drinkers. any study finds that too much joe may be bad for your health. researchers say four cup days for those under 55 is potentially harmless. chair of urology and professor of yourology at hofstra long shore long island school of medicine has more details to tell us about this. four cups of cove. we always heard that coffee is good for you. >> yep. >> but now this new study is stating that four cups of coffee could lead to some dangerous hazards for your health if you're under the age of 55. why? >> so it's very interesting. i think people are going to get confused. >> they are. i'm confused. >> we've talked about how cove is great for you and has health benefits and now this study of about 47,000, they found that you have a high risk of dying from this. i will tell you that there's a
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lot of shortcomings from this study. it's observational. i've been a huge advocate of coffee on "sunday house call" many times. what happens is it depends on the number of cups you take in a day. bottom line, if you taken one or two cups a day, that's only -- it's eye-opening in the morning, it wakes you up, it's a stimulant. it basically inhibits the brain and makes you wake up. the best health benefit of coffee, kelly, is between three, two c 3.2 cups. helps with alzheimer's and on and on in my field. based on this study if you drink more than four cups addai it will have an agreement.
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if you drink too much, more than four cups a day. between three and four, i'm all for it. between one and two, you're basically using it to. >> it's a great antioxidant which has always been beneficial. you say that might be going too far. just like wine. speaking of alcohol, what do we know about some of the studies about alcohol now. >> this is another study coming in. with alcohol you're going to gain a lot of weight around your waist. >> that converts into sugar? >> that's absolutely right. you get about seven grams of fat with alcohol. it's close to fat as carbohydrates and protein. so if you're a moderate drinker, for member you get about 433 calories a day, which is a lot of calories. women are about 300 calories. what they also find out, which is very interesting is when you start to drink, now all of a
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sudden your guards are down. you're going to be careless. >> and there's the rub. drink a little bit more, jamie, and you start eating more. >> i'm not into alcohol, but on the coffee side, blood pressure and coffee drinking. >> that's a good point. the blood pressure has both sides. short term it can increase your blood pressure. i'm glad you brought it up. long term it hasn't raised the blood pressure. i would always say if you are pregnant, history of reflux, anxiety disorder, stay away from coffee. but, jamie, you're right. coffee has vitamin b-5 and vitamin b-1. >> moderation folks. thanks so much for joining us. i'm jammijamie. >> and i'm kelly wright. k you. that's three new paper shredders. [ boris ] put 'em on my spark card. [ garth ] boris' small business earns 2% cash back on every pchase every day.
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